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#148913 - 16/03/2003 21:57 "car player not found" when trying to upgrade?
imlikinthebass
stranger

Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
i was trying to upgrade from 2.00 b. 11 to 2.00 b 13 and the ugrade wizard did not find my empeg. also i tried to install the hijack kernel with the logo editor and it tells me to unplug the power and plug it back in to start the transer but it never does anything. any suggestions? thanks.

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#148914 - 16/03/2003 22:28 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Make sure you don't have multiple programs connected to the com/serial port. You can only connect with one program at once over the com/serial port, so make sure HyperTerminal and other similar programs are closed or disconnected from the com/serial port.
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#148915 - 17/03/2003 00:36 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, something is wrong with your serial port or the cable. Go through this and see what's up.
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#148916 - 17/03/2003 14:25 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: tfabris]
imlikinthebass
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Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
i went and added the empeg in HyperTerminal, but nothing displays when it boots up.

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#148917 - 17/03/2003 14:29 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
i went and added the empeg in HyperTerminal, but nothing displays when it boots up.
Right, so there's something wrong with the serial connection. That's why the upgrade doesn't work. Go through the text in the Hyperterminal FAQ entry and read each paragraph carefully and do all of the troubleshooting. If Hypterterminal doesn't work, then the upgrade won't work. If Hypterterminal works, then the upgrade should work.
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#148918 - 17/03/2003 14:38 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: tfabris]
imlikinthebass
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Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
should it do the diagnostic? because it doesnt when i try the ctrl-t thing. thanks for the help im a lil slow when it comes to computers and this kind of stuff.

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#148919 - 17/03/2003 14:53 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
When it works, you should see a bunch of text scroll by in Hyperterminal. The Ctrl-T thing is way too far along in the troubleshooting process. Back up a few paragraphs.
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#148920 - 17/03/2003 15:03 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: wfaulk]
imlikinthebass
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Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
can anyone tell me how to get to the Windows Device Manager in XP?


Edited by imlikinthebass (17/03/2003 15:04)

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#148921 - 17/03/2003 15:05 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Hardware tab -> Device Manager button

/Michael
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#148922 - 17/03/2003 15:08 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: mtempsch]
imlikinthebass
stranger

Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
thanks! ill go try it

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#148923 - 17/03/2003 21:29 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
imlikinthebass
stranger

Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
the device manager says that the serial ports are working properly, but still i get nothing in hyperterminal. im stumped. should the little blue light be lit on the back?

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#148924 - 17/03/2003 21:42 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
should the little blue light be lit on the back?
Only if you've got a working ethernet connection. The blue light is the ethernet "Link" light. It has nothing to do with the serial port.

Are you sure your serial cable is good? Are you sure it's a null-modem cable? Are you sure it's plugged in correctly? Has the serial cable ever worked before, or is this the first time you've tried it?
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#148925 - 17/03/2003 21:52 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: tfabris]
imlikinthebass
stranger

Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
im pretty sure the cable is good. i bought it at radioshack not too long ago when i got my empeg. but i really haven ever used it.

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#148926 - 17/03/2003 22:16 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
im pretty sure the cable is good.


I've got $5 on "its not a null modem cable". Any takers?

-Mike
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#148927 - 17/03/2003 23:20 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: mcomb]
ajayrockrock
journeyman

Registered: 29/12/2001
Posts: 99
Loc: Riverside, CA
hehe... I wouldn't take that bet. I was pulling my hair one one day because I couldn't get a serial connection with a known good serial cable. But then I found the one that shipped with my Rio and it worked like a charm.

The lesson learned: Just because the cable *looked* like a serial cable, doesn't mean it is.

--Ajay

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#148928 - 18/03/2003 12:10 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: mcomb]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I've got $5 on "its not a null modem cable". Any takers?
I'd agree there, but it still theoretically could be other problems.

Try doing the upgrade on a different computer and/or with a different cable.
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#148929 - 18/03/2003 13:15 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: tfabris]
imlikinthebass
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Registered: 23/01/2003
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#148930 - 18/03/2003 13:22 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
That's the wrong thing. You need a null modem cable (RatShack doesn't seem to carry one), but, assuming you can't return what you've got, it'd be cheaper to buy a null modem adapter. Even if you can, the adapter will provide you with two different attachments (if you need to use the cable elsewhere), at the expense of having a somewhat bulky and inconvenient adapter tacked on for the empeg.
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#148931 - 18/03/2003 14:03 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: wfaulk]
imlikinthebass
stranger

Registered: 23/01/2003
Posts: 31
thanks a lot. i appreciate the help. do i need to put an adapter at each end of the cable or just one end?

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#148932 - 18/03/2003 14:05 Re: "car player not found" when trying to upgrade? [Re: imlikinthebass]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Just one end - otherwise you would be back to the same situation as without an adapter.

/Michael
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